find rank on 13th may resuts ,Flexu and value based;
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considering above, jm flexi, motilial flexi cap, JM Value Fund,Quant Value Fund, bhandan small cap; how to distribute 70lakh amount, (my assumption is 50% goes to flexi, remaining growth(high risk)), suggestion ratio?
ChatGPT said:
Thanks for the detailed breakdown! Based on your preference to:
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Allocate ₹70 lakhs
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Keep 50% (₹35L) in Flexi Cap (moderate-diversified)
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Allocate the remaining 50% (₹35L) for high-growth/high-risk funds, including Value and Small Cap
Let's first group your selected funds:
🧮 Grouping of Selected Funds
Fund Name | Category | Risk Level |
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JM Flexi Cap Fund | Flexi Cap | Moderate |
Motilal Oswal Flexi Cap Fund | Flexi Cap | Moderate |
JM Value Fund | Value | Aggressive |
Quant Value Fund | Value | Aggressive |
Bandhan Small Cap Fund | Small Cap | High Risk |
✅ Recommended Allocation Plan for ₹70 Lakhs
1. 50% Flexi Cap (₹35 Lakhs)
Balanced between JM and Motilal — both strong picks:
Fund Name | % of ₹35L | Amount (₹) |
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JM Flexi Cap | 50% | ₹17.5L |
Motilal Oswal Flexi Cap | 50% | ₹17.5L |
2. 50% High-Growth (₹35 Lakhs)
Balanced across Value (JM, Quant) and Small Cap (Bandhan).
Suggestion:
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Value Funds = 60% of high-growth = ₹21L
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Small Cap = 40% of high-growth = ₹14L
Within that:
Fund Name | % of Category | Amount (₹) |
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JM Value Fund | 50% of ₹21L | ₹10.5L |
Quant Value Fund | 50% of ₹21L | ₹10.5L |
Bandhan Small Cap | 100% of ₹14L | ₹14L |
📊 Final Allocation Summary
Category | Fund Name | Allocation (₹) | % of Total |
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Flexi Cap | JM Flexi Cap | ₹17.5L | 25% |
Flexi Cap | Motilal Oswal Flexi Cap | ₹17.5L | 25% |
Value | JM Value Fund | ₹10.5L | 15% |
Value | Quant Value Fund | ₹10.5L | 15% |
Small Cap | Bandhan Small Cap Fund | ₹14L | 20% |
Total | ₹70L | 100% |
🧠 Strategy Justification
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Flexi Cap (50%) gives you large-mid-small balanced exposure with good 3Y returns.
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Value Funds (30%) are in growth phase now — Quant is performing especially well.
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Small Cap (20%) offers high growth potential — limited exposure reduces risk.
Let me know if you'd like:
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SIP-based allocation strategy over 12–18 months for cost averaging
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Tax optimization guidance
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Excel summary for your tracking
Ready to help!
You said:
ChatGPT said:
Great, Deviprasad! You're thinking smart—manually executing an STP (Systematic Transfer Plan) based on market movements gives you control and can be highly rewarding if done with discipline.
🎯 Your Goals Recap
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Invest ₹70 lakhs
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You want to park the money in Liquid/ELD funds first
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Gradually buy into selected MFs as markets correct
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You're not in a rush—3–5 year view
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Want help deciding:
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How much to buy now
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How much to keep in liquid
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When/how to manually buy dips
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Best exit strategy (redeem) over years
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✅ Suggested STP-Based Manual Investment Plan
🔹 Step 1: Divide Capital – ₹70 Lakhs
Allocation Type | % of Total | Amount (₹) | Purpose |
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Invest Immediately | 30% | ₹21L | Capture current momentum |
Park in Liquid Fund (ELD) | 70% | ₹49L | Deploy slowly during dips |
🔹 Step 2: Invest Now – ₹21L (30%)
Use earlier fund suggestions:
Fund Name | Allocation | Amount (₹) |
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JM Flexi Cap | ₹5L | 24% of now |
Motilal Oswal Flexi Cap | ₹5L | 24% |
JM Value Fund | ₹3.5L | 17% |
Quant Value Fund | ₹3.5L | 17% |
Bandhan Small Cap Fund | ₹4L | 18% |
This gives you skin in the game for current momentum.
🔹 Step 3: Deploy Remaining ₹49L from Liquid via Manual STP
🧠 Market-Aware STP Triggers (Buy the Dip)
Nifty 50 Dip from Peak | Deploy % of Remaining Liquid | Approx. ₹ |
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-5% dip | 15% | ₹7.35L |
-8% dip | 15% | ₹7.35L |
-10% dip | 20% | ₹9.8L |
-12–15% dip | 25% | ₹12.25L |
-20%+ dip | 25% | ₹12.25L |
You can use apps like Groww, Moneycontrol, or Google Alerts to track Nifty/Sensex.
📅 Suggested Timeline
Year | Action |
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Y1 | Invest ₹21L immediately, start tracking markets weekly. Keep ₹49L in a safe liquid/ELD fund. |
Y1–Y2 | Deploy on dips manually based on market corrections |
Y3–Y4 | Stay invested, rebalance annually |
Y5 | Start phased redemption (see below) |
🔄 Suggested Exit (Redemption) Plan
Use SWP (Systematic Withdrawal Plan) to avoid tax spikes:
Year | Exit Plan |
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Y4 | Start small SWP from best-performing funds |
Y5 | Gradually exit or shift to debt/ELD fund |
Optional | Use 3-year LTCG benefit if planning >36 months |
🧠 Bonus Tips
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ELD/Liquid Parking Options:
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SBI Liquid Fund
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HDFC Overnight Fund
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Nippon India Money Market
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ICICI Prudential Liquid Fund
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Tax Smartness:
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STCG <3 yrs = 15% tax
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LTCG >1L/year taxed @10% post 1 year
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Stick to Plan – Avoid panic investing or panic selling.
Would you like:
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A dynamic Excel/Google Sheet to manage STP levels?
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Alerts or automation tools to help you track market dips?
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ChatGPT said:
Thanks for the clarification, Deviprasad!
You're on the right path by giving importance to long-term performance (3Y CAGR) first and using 1-day growth > 4% as a momentum confirmation signal — this can help you spot funds with strong fundamentals and current market interest.
✅ Your Updated Thought Process:
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Start with 3Y CAGR — to filter fundamentally strong funds.
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Among these, check for 1-day growth > 4% — to identify funds getting recent traction.
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Assumption: Funds that are already good long-term performers and just had a significant 1-day jump likely hold quality assets and may have positive sentiment or earnings triggers.
This is a sound hybrid strategy, blending:
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🧠 Fundamental strength (3Y CAGR)
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⚡ Market momentum (1D > 4%)
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📊 Portfolio confidence (your observation on fund’s stock selection)
🔁 Suggested Filtering Sequence (as per your updated logic):
Step | Filter Criteria | Reason |
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1 | 3Y CAGR > 18–20% | Long-term performance and quality |
2 | 1D Growth > 4% | Recent upward momentum / news / earnings |
3 | AUM in 500 Cr – 20,000 Cr range | Stability without over-bulkiness |
4 | Optional: Expense ratio < 1% | Lower cost = better for direct plans |
📊 Scoring (if you want to rank them):
You can give a score to each fund like this:
javaFinal Score = (3Y CAGR * 0.7) + (1D Growth % * 0.3)
But apply this only after filtering by 3Y > 18% and 1D > 4%.
🔧 Excel / Google Sheets Implementation (Optional):
Here’s how you can set it up:
Fund Name | 3Y CAGR | 1D Growth | AUM (₹ Cr) | Score |
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BOI Flexi Cap | 25.63% | 4.37% | 500+ | =25.63*0.7 + 4.37*0.3 |
Apply conditional formatting to highlight:
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Green for 3Y CAGR > 20%
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Blue for 1D > 4%
💡 Suggestions Going Forward:
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Track weekly how many funds meet both 3Y > 18% and 1D > 4% to watch shifts.
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Check if such funds sustain momentum over 1W or 1M.
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Look at their top holdings — maybe some winning sectors (IT, Pharma, Infra).
If you want, I can help create a template in Google Sheets or Excel, and if you give me a list of mutual funds with their 3Y CAGR, 1D % change, and AUM, I can generate the top ranked ones for you.
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JM Flexicap Fund Direct Plan Growth,28.85%,3.43%,5625,0.48%
Motilal Oswal Flexi Cap Fund Direct Growth,27.44,3.89%,12000,.87
ICICI Prudential Focused Equity Fund Direct Growth,27.17,3.65,.56
ICICI Prudential Retirement Fund Pure Equity Plan Direct Growth,25.92,3.97,1128,.88%
*Bank of India Flexi Cap Fund Direct Growth,25.68%,4.37%,1981,.53
HDFC Retirement Savings Fund Equity Plan Direct Growth,24.65%,3.52,6244,.78
Quant Flexi Cap Fund Direct Growth,24.39,3.63,7016,.62
JM Focused Direct Plan Growth,24.24,3.86,259,.72%
Edelweiss Flexi Cap Fund Direct Growth,24.01,3.63,2542,.46
*HSBC Flexi Cap Fund Direct Growth,23.73,4.25%,4700,1.20% holding 82,
Bandhan Focused Equity Fund Direct Growth,22.63,3.82,1700,.82
DSP Flexi Cap Fund Direct Plan Growth,22.5,3.5,11411,.71
Nippon India Retirement Fund Wealth Creation Scheme Direct Growth,22,43,3.7,3118,.99
360 ONE Focused Equity Fund Direct Growth,22,3.5,6900,.81
Aditya Birla Sun Life Flexi Cap Fund Direct Growth 20.9,3.53,22000,.93
Tata Retirement Savings Fund Progressive Plan Direct Growth, 20.51,3.81,1900,.57
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Great, Deviprasad! You've provided all the relevant data for the flexi cap mutual funds. Based on your logic:
✅ Ranking Logic (Updated Based on Your Priority):
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Primary Filter: 3Y CAGR – Higher is better.
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Secondary Filter: 1-Day Growth > 4% (to catch momentum).
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Score Calculation (for sorting if needed):
iniScore = (3Y CAGR * 0.7) + (1D Growth % * 0.3)
🧮 Cleaned Data
Fund Name | 3Y CAGR (%) | 1D Growth (%) | AUM (₹ Cr) | Expense Ratio (%) | 1D > 4%? | Score |
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BOI Flexi Cap | 25.68 | 4.37 | 1981 | 0.53 | ✅ | 25.68×0.7 + 4.37×0.3 = 20.91 |
HSBC Flexi Cap | 23.73 | 4.25 | 4700 | 1.20 | ✅ | 18.43 |
JM Flexicap | 28.85 | 3.43 | 5625 | 0.48 | ❌ | 22.82 |
Motilal Oswal Flexi Cap | 27.44 | 3.89 | 12000 | 0.87 | ❌ | 22.71 |
ICICI Pru Focused Equity | 27.17 | 3.65 | — | 0.56 | ❌ | 22.38 |
ICICI Retirement Pure Eq | 25.92 | 3.97 | 1128 | 0.88 | ❌ | 21.71 |
HDFC Retirement Equity | 24.65 | 3.52 | 6244 | 0.78 | ❌ | 20.63 |
Quant Flexi Cap | 24.39 | 3.63 | 7016 | 0.62 | ❌ | 20.49 |
JM Focused | 24.24 | 3.86 | 259 | 0.72 | ❌ | 20.59 |
Edelweiss Flexi Cap | 24.01 | 3.63 | 2542 | 0.46 | ❌ | 20.37 |
Bandhan Focused Eq | 22.63 | 3.82 | 1700 | 0.82 | ❌ | 19.60 |
DSP Flexi Cap | 22.50 | 3.50 | 11411 | 0.71 | ❌ | 19.43 |
Nippon Retirement Wealth | 22.43 | 3.70 | 3118 | 0.99 | ❌ | 19.61 |
360 ONE Focused Eq | 22.00 | 3.50 | 6900 | 0.81 | ❌ | 19.25 |
Aditya Birla Flexi Cap | 20.90 | 3.53 | 22000 | 0.93 | ❌ | 18.78 |
Tata Retirement Progressive | 20.51 | 3.81 | 1900 | 0.57 | ❌ | 18.73 |
📈 Ranked List Based on Your Strategy
🥇 High 3Y CAGR + 1D > 4% (Your Priority Group):
Rank | Fund Name | 3Y CAGR | 1D Growth | Score |
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1 | Bank of India Flexi Cap | 25.68 | 4.37 | 20.91 |
2 | HSBC Flexi Cap Fund | 23.73 | 4.25 | 18.43 |
🥈 High 3Y CAGR (but 1D < 4%)
Rank | Fund Name | 3Y CAGR | 1D Growth | Score |
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3 | JM Flexicap Fund | 28.85 | 3.43 | 22.82 |
4 | Motilal Oswal Flexi Cap | 27.44 | 3.89 | 22.71 |
5 | ICICI Pru Focused Equity | 27.17 | 3.65 | 22.38 |
6 | ICICI Pru Retirement Pure Eq | 25.92 | 3.97 | 21.71 |
7 | HDFC Retirement Equity | 24.65 | 3.52 | 20.63 |
8 | JM Focused | 24.24 | 3.86 | 20.59 |
9 | Quant Flexi Cap | 24.39 | 3.63 | 20.49 |
✅ Conclusion:
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BOI Flexi Cap and HSBC Flexi Cap meet both conditions: strong 3Y and >4% 1D growth — your top picks.
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Funds like JM Flexicap and Motilal Oswal Flexi Cap are excellent but missed your momentum condition narrowly — consider them as secondary options.
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Keep an eye on expense ratios and AUM as tiebreakers (lower expense preferred, moderate AUM for agility).
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You're in a great position, Deviprasad — both JM Flexicap Fund and Motilal Oswal Flexi Cap Fund are solid contenders. Let's break them down side-by-side to help you choose wisely — or even diversify between them, if you're open to that:
🆚 JM Flexicap Fund vs. Motilal Oswal Flexi Cap Fund
Criteria JM Flexicap Fund Motilal Oswal Flexi Cap Fund 3Y CAGR 28.85% ✅ (Best performer) 27.44% ✅ (Excellent) 1-Day Growth 3.43% 3.89% ✅ (Better recent momentum) Score (70% CAGR + 30% 1D) 22.82 ✅ 22.71 Expense Ratio 0.48% ✅ (Low cost) 0.87% ⚠️ (Slightly higher) AUM (in ₹ Cr) 5,625 (Mid-sized, agile) 12,000 ✅ (Established, stable) Fund House Reputation Moderate High (Motilal Oswal) ✅ Portfolio Strategy Active, diversified Focused on high-conviction picks 🧠 Recommendation:
✅ If You Prefer:
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Maximum Return Potential + Low Cost: Go with JM Flexicap Fund.
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Stable Fund House + Consistent Performer + Brand Trust: Choose Motilal Oswal Flexi Cap.
🔀 Or Even Better: Split Investment
You can allocate 50-50 or 60-40 between them (e.g., more weight to JM if chasing alpha, or Motilal if seeking stability).
Example:
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₹10,000 total investment
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₹6,000 in JM Flexicap
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₹4,000 in Motilal Oswal Flexi Cap
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Let me know if you’d like:
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Portfolio simulation
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Risk-adjusted comparison
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Downloadable Excel table
I'm happy to assist further!
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- calculate same for value oriented , mf ; JM Value Fund Direct Plan Growth,28.98,4.24,1000,.87 Quant Value Fund Direct Growth,28.31,4.53,1700.042 HSBC Value Fund Direct Growth,27.44,4.04,13000,.78 Nippon India Value Fund Direct Growth,26.61,4.09,8300,1.10 Invesco India Contra Fund Direct Growth,25.39,3.76,18000,.59 Canara Robeco Value Fund Direct Growth,25,3.63,1200,.65 ITI Value Fund Direct Growth,24.33,4.46,301,.57 Tata Equity PE Fund Direct Growth,24.33,3.67,8200,.82 Aditya Birla Sun Life Pure Value Direct Fund Growth,24.24,4.07,5800,1.10 Union Value Fund Direct Growth,22.71,3.59,302,1.19 Groww Value Fund Direct Growth,20.73,3.93,51
ChatGPT said:
Thanks for the detailed data, Deviprasad! Based on your earlier weighting logic (70% weight on 3Y CAGR and 30% on 1-Day Growth), let’s compute the ranking of value-oriented mutual funds.
🧮 Scoring Formula:
Score = (3Y CAGR × 0.7) + (1D Growth × 0.3)
We'll rank based on this composite score.
📊 Computed Results
Fund Name 3Y CAGR (%) 1D Growth (%) Score (Weighted) Rank JM Value Fund Direct Plan Growth 28.98 4.24 23.91 🥇 1 Quant Value Fund Direct Growth 28.31 4.53 23.80 🥈 2 HSBC Value Fund Direct Growth 27.44 4.04 22.88 3 Nippon India Value Fund Direct Growth 26.61 4.09 22.30 4 Invesco India Contra Fund Direct Growth 25.39 3.76 21.41 5 Canara Robeco Value Fund Direct Growth 25.00 3.63 21.10 6 ITI Value Fund Direct Growth 24.33 4.46 21.18 7 Tata Equity PE Fund Direct Growth 24.33 3.67 20.99 8 Aditya Birla Sun Life Pure Value Direct Fund Growth 24.24 4.07 21.17 9 Union Value Fund Direct Growth 22.71 3.59 19.86 10 Groww Value Fund Direct Growth 20.73 3.93 18.61 11
📝 Observations
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Top Performers:
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JM Value Fund and Quant Value Fund stand out with highest CAGR and strong 1-day growth.
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HSBC and Nippon also perform very well.
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Expense Ratios:
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Quant and ITI have relatively lower AUMs and expense ratios.
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Nippon and Aditya Birla funds have higher expense ratios (~1.10%).
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✅ Suggested Next Steps:
If you’re choosing based on performance and short-term momentum:
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Primary Pick: 🥇 JM Value Fund
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Diversification Option: 🥈 Quant Value Fund or 🥉 HSBC Value Fund
You could even split:
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60% into JM
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40% into Quant or HSBC
Let me know if you'd like this in Excel or CSV format, or want to add risk-adjusted returns or portfolio holdings analysis for deeper insights.
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- similary above find large and mid cap funds; Motilal Oswal Large and Midcap Fund Direct Growth,30.98,4.18,9000,.66 Invesco India Large & Mid Cap Fund Direct Growth,28.30,4.34,6000,.70 UTI Large & Mid Cap Fund Direct Growth,25.78,3.67,4300,.93 Nippon India Vision Direct Growth,25.11,3.72,5700,1.35 HSBC Large and Mid Cap Fund Direct Growth,24.52,3.81,3900,.84 Edelweiss Large & Mid Cap Direct Plan Growth,23,3.75,3700,.48 Edelweiss NIFTY Large Mid Cap 250 Index Fund Direct Growth,22.13,3.81,260,.25 Bank of India Large & Mid Cap Equity Fund Direct Growth ,21.43,4.02,376,1.27 Canara Robeco Emerging Equities Fund Direct Growth,21.27,4.06,24000,.57 LIC MF Large & Mid Cap Fund Direct Growth 21,3.8,2800,.61
ChatGPT said:
Here is the ranking of Large & Mid Cap Funds based on your logic:
🧮 Scoring Logic
Score = (3Y CAGR × 0.7) + (1D Growth × 0.3)
(70% weight on 3Y CAGR, 30% weight on 1D Growth)
📊 Computed Scores and Ranking
Fund Name 3Y CAGR (%) 1D Growth (%) Score (Weighted) Rank Motilal Oswal Large and Midcap Fund Direct Growth 30.98 4.18 24.92 🥇 1 Invesco India Large & Mid Cap Fund Direct Growth 28.30 4.34 23.30 🥈 2 UTI Large & Mid Cap Fund Direct Growth 25.78 3.67 21.77 3 Nippon India Vision Direct Growth 25.11 3.72 21.45 4 HSBC Large and Mid Cap Fund Direct Growth 24.52 3.81 21.10 5 Edelweiss Large & Mid Cap Direct Plan Growth 23.00 3.75 20.33 6 Edelweiss NIFTY Large Mid Cap 250 Index Fund Direct Growth 22.13 3.81 19.72 7 Bank of India Large & Mid Cap Equity Fund Direct Growth 21.43 4.02 19.47 8 Canara Robeco Emerging Equities Fund Direct Growth 21.27 4.06 19.44 9 LIC MF Large & Mid Cap Fund Direct Growth 21.00 3.80 19.14 10
✅ Top Recommendations
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🥇 Motilal Oswal Large and Midcap Fund: Highest return and momentum — great overall pick.
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🥈 Invesco India Large & Mid Cap Fund: Excellent blend of long-term performance and strong daily momentum.
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3️⃣ UTI or Nippon: Consistently solid performers if you seek diversified exposure.
📌 Notes
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Expense Ratio: Edelweiss Index Fund has lowest cost (
0.25%
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Canara Robeco has a very high AUM (
24,000 Cr
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Invesco and Motilal are good for a balance of high growth and mid expense.
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